Talk:Moving Trees

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Substantial Editing

I've added to the Moving Trees page and I will continue to do so. Munch

Added some more player names. Munch

Confirmed active, on Facebook. --Linden 22:20, 24 December 2010 (EST)

Up dated populace names, and Election results Munch 4-26-11

A good scrubbing, some spit and polish, she looks better than ever! I feel these changes are conservative, and fair. --Munch Ironfistersson 07:39, 7 July 2013 (EDT)

added Category's and an ORK link for the populaces records --Munch Ironfistersson 07:57, 7 July 2013 (EDT)

Moving Trees / Sacred Winds

Merging moving trees page in to the sacred wind page, IMO having to pages for the same land is non-optimal. Munch Ironfistersson 22:42, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

All previous lands have their own page, even if renamed. Please keep the Moving Trees page as a defunct park and edit the Sacred Winds page as an active park. Ricken (talk) 00:29, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
Hi Ricken. As per AmtWiki:Rules#Chapter_pages I did not delete the Moving Trees page, and I also left the Categories in-place as well. Your right though I should have left the defunct listings in-place. Beyond that in the past I was not able to find any rules that precluded redirects...I just took another look around I stile cant seem-to find anything about redirects, redirect restrictions or redirect guidelines specifically. :-( Help:Linking for example does not mention redirects at all, also a general search revels hundreds of examples of redirects used in a similar way. To my-mind this looks like a conventional and ubiquitous use. I will what on your response, and I Thank you for your time. Munch Ironfistersson 08:49, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
Our policies and guidelines are currently being expanded and rewritten to reflect our unwritten practices. The help section is also in the middle of an expansion, and will mention redirects when it's completed. Redirects are not added to pages alaready containing information, and chapter pages with information are not blanked unless they are duplicate pages and the contents of all pages are being merged. In this case, the two parks are considered separate. Sorry about the confusion. Ricken (talk) 14:51, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
Ricken I thank you for your prompt response. :-D "unless they are duplicate pages and the contents of all pages are being merged." To merged the pages, This was my intention. I well continue with the merge. but hold of on any further redirects in-till that time when the "wrighen" policies and guidelines clarify their use. ;-) Munch Ironfistersson 16:05, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
I think I misspoke, or at least concerning this particular instance. Parks that change their names submit a new contract to the Burning Lands, thereby making them a new park, even if membership, location, and all other details have not changed. AmtWiki has established policy of retaining information of the pages of defunct parks, even those who are not actually defunct due to a name change. This keeps the history of parks preserved, and continuity across the site.
If you see another park in a situation like this who has had a name change and has a redirect from the old park name, let me know, because this is incorrect and we must have let that slip past accidentally. Other redirect usage includes for misspellings, pluralized articles, and player name changes, not for park name changes.
Keep the Moving Trees information as part of the historical record, but keep the Sacred Winds information updated as an active park. Thanks for the understanding, and I'll make sure the new policies include this to prevent further confusion. Ricken (talk) 16:20, 14 April 2015 (EDT)