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− | + | ==We need to get rid of the news and upcoming events sections== | |
+ | They haven't been updated since 2019. If nobody is committed to these, they don't need to be on the main page. It makes our organization look dead to newcomers. | ||
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+ | [[User:Sheeves|Sheeves]] ([[User talk:Sheeves|talk]]) 15:07, 29 March 2022 (CDT)Sheeves | ||
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+ | ==About the Main Page== | ||
+ | This front page was designed by [[Hooper]].--[[User:Linden|Linden]] 13:04, 12 July 2012 (EDT) | ||
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+ | If you want to add something to the Upcoming Events or News columns, please add it to the appropriate templates: [[Template:News]] and [[Template:Upcoming Events]]. If you are unfamiliar with how to do so, [http://amtwiki.net/amtwiki/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=sysop please seek out an admin]. | ||
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+ | ==Previous/Outdated Main Page Info== | ||
If you have questions, comments, or concerns/corrections about the "This week in amtgard" section please comment on [[Template_Talk:Current_Events|this page]]. If you have questions or comments about the main page itself, feel free to leave them here. -[[User:Hannoske|Hannoske]] 12:02, 14 November 2008 (EST) | If you have questions, comments, or concerns/corrections about the "This week in amtgard" section please comment on [[Template_Talk:Current_Events|this page]]. If you have questions or comments about the main page itself, feel free to leave them here. -[[User:Hannoske|Hannoske]] 12:02, 14 November 2008 (EST) | ||
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Any slight misspellings that cause bad links can be fixed like normal by correcting the above Wikilinks. Additionally, I am not familiar with all of the official full names of the kingdoms (i.e. Empire of versus Kingdom of versus The Kingdom of versus Kingdom of the, etc.) so the rollover text can be corrected if need be as well. May have to tweak it to get the same 400 px as well. [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] 20:41, 10 October 2011 (EDT) | Any slight misspellings that cause bad links can be fixed like normal by correcting the above Wikilinks. Additionally, I am not familiar with all of the official full names of the kingdoms (i.e. Empire of versus Kingdom of versus The Kingdom of versus Kingdom of the, etc.) so the rollover text can be corrected if need be as well. May have to tweak it to get the same 400 px as well. [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] 20:41, 10 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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+ | :Can't seem to get it to lay right. I have tried adding brackets to a few places, and I can make the image show, but the roll over text appears as one giant block, I must be doing something wrong. To that end, I'm going to unlock the front page temporarily so that you can apply the code properly. Let me know when you are ready, Mister Hooper. --[[User:Linden|Linden]] 21:44, 10 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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+ | ::<s>Not a problem. If you see this message before midnight central tonight, I'm online. I'll try to catch you on facebook. If not, I'll try tomorrow. I've messed with imagemap a lot on another wiki so I've gotten good at tweaking it. [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] 23:52, 10 October 2011 (EDT)</s> Actually, ignore all that. I looked at the diffs and I can see the problem. Simply copying the above should work fine, possible with pixel size tweaking. However, first, [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] the extension actually has to be activated. So depending on who has access, it may not be possible. Simple to add the extension, and I personally think it's a great tool (for reference, you can see it in user [http://ogres.wikia.com/wiki/Chapter_Portal here]). [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] 23:56, 10 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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+ | :::Roger is the guts and bones owner. He is not usually opposed to plug-ins, I'll run it by him. =)--[[User:Linden|Linden]] 07:50, 11 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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+ | ::::According to a post (by whom I assume is Roger) on E-Sam, the ImageMap extension should work now. Any chance we can try this out? {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 23:46, 22 December 2011 (EST) | ||
+ | |||
+ | :::::Got it done, and it works like a dream. Thanks! --[[User:Linden|Linden]] 14:31, 26 December 2011 (EST) | ||
+ | |||
+ | ::::::Hey, Alona just updated the heraldry image, so we need to update the imagemap code as its not right now. Here is the new code, could an admin change the old to this? Thanks! | ||
+ | |||
+ | <pre><imagemap> | ||
+ | Image:Allkingdom.png| | ||
+ | |||
+ | poly 180 192 211 162 264 148 344 151 386 165 477 276 478 401 395 470 319 486 238 479 161 411 136 268 [[Amtgard|Amtgard]] | ||
+ | rect 267 14 356 122 [[Burning Lands|Kingdom of the Burning Lands]] | ||
+ | rect 360 51 452 159 [[Emerald Hills|Kingdom of the Emerald Hills]] | ||
+ | rect 453 99 539 196 [[Celestial Kingdom|The Celestial Kingdom]] | ||
+ | rect 502 197 592 307 [[Golden Plains|Kingdom of the Golden Plains]] | ||
+ | rect 512 309 601 412 [[Iron Mountains|The Empire of the Iron Mountains]] | ||
+ | rect 458 415 551 521 [[Goldenvale|The Kingdom of the Goldenvale]] | ||
+ | rect 367 485 456 591 [[Dragonspine|The Kingdom of Dragonspine]] | ||
+ | rect 263 505 356 623 [[Wetlands|The Wetlands]] | ||
+ | rect 170 484 258 593 [[Neverwinter|The Kingdom of Neverwinter]] | ||
+ | rect 80 417 163 525 [[Blackspire|The Kingdom of Blackspire]] | ||
+ | rect 26 312 114 416 [Rising Winds|The Kingdom of the Rising Winds]] | ||
+ | rect 29 197 119 306 [[Crystal Groves|The Kingdom of the Crystal Groves]] | ||
+ | rect 84 97 171 196 [[Desert Winds|The Kingdom of the Desert Winds]] | ||
+ | rect 172 55 257 150 [[Tal Dagore|The Kingdom of Tal Dagore]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | desc bottom-left | ||
+ | </imagemap></pre> | ||
+ | |||
+ | ::::::Although, '''please note''' - when I attempted to alter the image being used on the sandbox main page redesign, I got an odd error that said that no such image existed. But it clearly does, as its currently on the main page and it even loaded properly on the offsite imagemap code generator I use. Odd. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 21:00, 28 January 2012 (EST) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Should change the wording from "Clan" to "Gathering of the Clans." - Glen | ||
+ | |||
+ | Here is the most recent imagemap code correction: | ||
+ | <pre><imagemap> | ||
+ | Image:Allkingdomnlcorrect.jpg| | ||
+ | |||
+ | rect 268 11 347 111 [[Burning Lands|Kingdom of the Burning Lands]] | ||
+ | rect 356 34 434 135 [[Emerald Hills|Kingdom of the Emerald Hills]] | ||
+ | rect 438 89 524 184 [[Celestial Kingdom|The Celestial Kingdom]] | ||
+ | rect 483 188 568 284 [[Golden Plains|Kingdom of the Golden Plains]] | ||
+ | rect 494 290 575 388 [[Iron Mountains|The Empire of the Iron Mountains]] | ||
+ | rect 471 395 559 490 [[Goldenvale|Kingdom of Goldenvale]] | ||
+ | rect 395 466 469 561 [[Dragonspine|Kingdom of Dragonspine]] | ||
+ | rect 308 503 390 600 [[Wetlands|Kingdom of the Wetlands]] | ||
+ | rect 219 503 300 599 [[Neverwinter|Kingdom of Neverwinter]] | ||
+ | rect 133 469 209 562 [[Rising Winds|Kingdom of the Valley of the Rising Winds]] | ||
+ | rect 62 389 140 465 [[Blackspire|Kingdom of Blackspire]] | ||
+ | rect 67 460 133 485 [[Blackspire|Kingdom of Blackspire]] | ||
+ | rect 25 289 104 385 [[Crystal Groves|Kingdom of Crystal Groves]] | ||
+ | rect 38 189 119 280 [[Desert Winds|Kingdom of the Desert Winds]] | ||
+ | rect 86 89 171 184 [[Tal Dagore|Kingdom of Tal Dagore]] | ||
+ | rect 176 37 261 141 [[Northern Lights|Kingdom of the Northern Lights]] | ||
+ | poly 130 286 183 180 259 146 319 145 398 167 446 263 466 379 456 438 375 476 275 495 216 472 156 417 [[Amtgard|Amtgard]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | desc bottom-left | ||
+ | </imagemap></pre> | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 20:07, 13 September 2012 (EDT) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == New graphic with all of the Kingdoms == | ||
+ | |||
+ | Given that the graphic on the home page is years out of date, I made a new one. | ||
+ | <gallery> | ||
+ | All-kingdoms-2023-draft2.png | ||
+ | </gallery> | ||
+ | The imagemap will also have to be redone, but one thing at a time. For now, it could just redirect to [[https://wiki.amtgard.com/Category:Chapters_by_Kingdom Chapters by Kingdom]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[User:Benbookworm97|Benbookworm97]] ([[User talk:Benbookworm97|talk]]) 05:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | The redirect now works, but can the image be updated too? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[User:Benbookworm97|Benbookworm97]] ([[User talk:Benbookworm97|talk]]) 01:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Updating links and lists == | ||
+ | |||
+ | I made several edits to links. Rather than risk making multiple changes to the Main Page in a single edit, I made a series of smaller edits. Each is explained in that edit's Summary, for ease of undoing if needed. I checked every link on the Main Page, and updated some to correctly direct to the referenced category or webpage. However, just because the links work doesn't mean they still belong there. Here is my list of proposed edits / discussion points: | ||
+ | |||
+ | *The Game | ||
+ | **Perhaps "Rulebook" should link to [https://www.amtgard.com/documents Amtgard Official Documents], where the most recent rules should be (because we're not still on V8.0, and the subsequent version don't have pages created). | ||
+ | **Consider directly linking to [https://www.easygard.ca/ Easyguard Mobile App]. | ||
+ | **"Equipment" could perhaps be renamed "Materials", "Supplies", or something else to reflect the presence of "Tutorials" in the list. The "About" list could likewise be reworked to be something to the effect of "Gameplay". | ||
+ | ***Should "[[Merchants list]]" still be there? I can see it being a good resource, but only if it were updated more recently than 2015. | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Chapters | ||
+ | **"Find a Chapter" should probably link to either [https://play.amtgard.com play.amtgard.com] or to the [https://ork.amtgard.com/orkui/index.php?Route=Atlas ORK Atlas] | ||
+ | **Perhaps move "Types of Chapters" into the bullet with "By Kingdom | By State..." and rename "By Size". By linking to [[:Category:Chapter Sizes]], this removes the need for its sub-list. | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Events | ||
+ | **Basically all of the "Events" pages need overhauling. I second the recommendation from Sheeves to just remove them since they're not being updated. | ||
+ | **"Interkingdom Events" could link to [[:Category:Interkingdom Events]] instead of having a sublist. | ||
+ | **"Standard Events" could link to [[:Category:Standard Events]] instead of having a sublist. | ||
+ | **It might even be worth it to label "Events" as "Events (help keep updated!)", or something similar. | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Player community | ||
+ | **I fixed the "By Kingdom" links to actually direct to the appropriate category page. | ||
+ | **I changed what was called "Knights and Nobles" to just be "Knights", since that was where it already linked, and because Nobles are not categorized by Kingdom. | ||
+ | **Player Tools | ||
+ | ***I think the ORK is the only link that is still likely to be used. Perhaps it should link directly to the [https://ork.amtgard.com/orkui/index.php ORK3] instead of the wiki page about it. | ||
+ | ***I'm surprised the Google Form to "Record Your Heraldry" still works (the edit history suggests it was added a decade ago), but is anyone monitoring responses on the other end? | ||
+ | ***The E-Sam page needs updating. Even though the site hasn't been used in forever, it's still a treasure trove, so I can't recommend removing the link entirely. Perhaps it could link directly to [http://electricsamurai.com/ E-Sam] instead of having to update its wiki page. | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Current Kingdoms | ||
+ | **The size of the Kingdom Heraldry could probably be increased and/or scale by screen size. | ||
+ | **If someone want to really put some work in, a new imagemap could be created for it. | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Locate a Chapter | ||
+ | **The map links appropriately to the categories of chapters by state. | ||
+ | **Why is California split in half? The chapters are not categorized accordingly. | ||
+ | **To reflect being "Amtgard International" and at least the number of Canadian chapters, the map should be somewhat more zoomed out than just the United States. | ||
+ | **Perhaps it can just be an inserted frame of the ORK Atlas? | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[User:Benbookworm97|Talon the Discerning]] ([[User_talk:Benbookworm97|talk]]) 00:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC) |
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We need to get rid of the news and upcoming events sections
They haven't been updated since 2019. If nobody is committed to these, they don't need to be on the main page. It makes our organization look dead to newcomers.
Sheeves (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2022 (CDT)Sheeves
About the Main Page
This front page was designed by Hooper.--Linden 13:04, 12 July 2012 (EDT)
If you want to add something to the Upcoming Events or News columns, please add it to the appropriate templates: Template:News and Template:Upcoming Events. If you are unfamiliar with how to do so, please seek out an admin.
Previous/Outdated Main Page Info
If you have questions, comments, or concerns/corrections about the "This week in amtgard" section please comment on this page. If you have questions or comments about the main page itself, feel free to leave them here. -Hannoske 12:02, 14 November 2008 (EST)
Comments were reset 01:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed to updating the main page's large image with each kingdom's heraldry to be click-thru navigatable? There is an easy tool to create the code here: [1]. I'm willing to create the code but an administrator would have to add it. I think it'd be a nice addition. Hooper 10:32, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
- Okay, to make it work, replace
[[File:Amtgard-all-heraldry.png|400px]]
with the following:
<imagemap> Image:Amtgard-all-heraldry.png| poly 306 139 480 239 478 470 397 540 307 559 224 541 136 473 124 319 135 220 [[Amtgard|Amtgard]] rect 263 12 355 132 [[Burning Lands|Kingdom of the Burning Lands]] rect 373 48 470 176 [[Emerald Hills|Kingdom of the Emerald Hills]] rect 482 114 581 234 [[Celestial Kingdom|The Celestial Kingdom]] rect 505 240 607 357 [[Golden Plains|Kingdom of the Golden Plains]] rect 507 362 600 483 [[Iron Mountains|The Empire of the Iron Mountains]] rect 479 482 582 602 [[Goldenvale|The Kingdom of the Goldenvale]] rect 374 548 473 665 [[Dragonspine|The Kingdom of Dragonspine]] rect 263 598 361 717 [[Wetlands|The Wetlands]] rect 147 548 249 672 [[Neverwinter|The Kingdom of Neverwinter]] rect 41 482 136 595 [[Blackspire|The Kingdom of Blackspire]] rect 0 363 98 480 [[Rising Winds|The Kingdom of the Rising Winds]] rect 41 112 136 236 [[Desert Winds|The Kingdom of the Desert Winds]] rect 149 52 242 167 [[Tal Dagore|The Kingdom of Tal Dagore]] rect 6 238 106 359 [[Crystal Groves|The Kingdom of the Crystal Groves]] desc bottom-left </imagemap>
Any slight misspellings that cause bad links can be fixed like normal by correcting the above Wikilinks. Additionally, I am not familiar with all of the official full names of the kingdoms (i.e. Empire of versus Kingdom of versus The Kingdom of versus Kingdom of the, etc.) so the rollover text can be corrected if need be as well. May have to tweak it to get the same 400 px as well. Hooper 20:41, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
- Can't seem to get it to lay right. I have tried adding brackets to a few places, and I can make the image show, but the roll over text appears as one giant block, I must be doing something wrong. To that end, I'm going to unlock the front page temporarily so that you can apply the code properly. Let me know when you are ready, Mister Hooper. --Linden 21:44, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
Not a problem. If you see this message before midnight central tonight, I'm online. I'll try to catch you on facebook. If not, I'll try tomorrow. I've messed with imagemap a lot on another wiki so I've gotten good at tweaking it. Hooper 23:52, 10 October 2011 (EDT)Actually, ignore all that. I looked at the diffs and I can see the problem. Simply copying the above should work fine, possible with pixel size tweaking. However, first, ImageMap the extension actually has to be activated. So depending on who has access, it may not be possible. Simple to add the extension, and I personally think it's a great tool (for reference, you can see it in user here). Hooper 23:56, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
- Roger is the guts and bones owner. He is not usually opposed to plug-ins, I'll run it by him. =)--Linden 07:50, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
- Got it done, and it works like a dream. Thanks! --Linden 14:31, 26 December 2011 (EST)
- Hey, Alona just updated the heraldry image, so we need to update the imagemap code as its not right now. Here is the new code, could an admin change the old to this? Thanks!
<imagemap> Image:Allkingdom.png| poly 180 192 211 162 264 148 344 151 386 165 477 276 478 401 395 470 319 486 238 479 161 411 136 268 [[Amtgard|Amtgard]] rect 267 14 356 122 [[Burning Lands|Kingdom of the Burning Lands]] rect 360 51 452 159 [[Emerald Hills|Kingdom of the Emerald Hills]] rect 453 99 539 196 [[Celestial Kingdom|The Celestial Kingdom]] rect 502 197 592 307 [[Golden Plains|Kingdom of the Golden Plains]] rect 512 309 601 412 [[Iron Mountains|The Empire of the Iron Mountains]] rect 458 415 551 521 [[Goldenvale|The Kingdom of the Goldenvale]] rect 367 485 456 591 [[Dragonspine|The Kingdom of Dragonspine]] rect 263 505 356 623 [[Wetlands|The Wetlands]] rect 170 484 258 593 [[Neverwinter|The Kingdom of Neverwinter]] rect 80 417 163 525 [[Blackspire|The Kingdom of Blackspire]] rect 26 312 114 416 [Rising Winds|The Kingdom of the Rising Winds]] rect 29 197 119 306 [[Crystal Groves|The Kingdom of the Crystal Groves]] rect 84 97 171 196 [[Desert Winds|The Kingdom of the Desert Winds]] rect 172 55 257 150 [[Tal Dagore|The Kingdom of Tal Dagore]] desc bottom-left </imagemap>
- Although, please note - when I attempted to alter the image being used on the sandbox main page redesign, I got an odd error that said that no such image existed. But it clearly does, as its currently on the main page and it even loaded properly on the offsite imagemap code generator I use. Odd. Takaffi talk contribs email 21:00, 28 January 2012 (EST)
Should change the wording from "Clan" to "Gathering of the Clans." - Glen
Here is the most recent imagemap code correction:
<imagemap> Image:Allkingdomnlcorrect.jpg| rect 268 11 347 111 [[Burning Lands|Kingdom of the Burning Lands]] rect 356 34 434 135 [[Emerald Hills|Kingdom of the Emerald Hills]] rect 438 89 524 184 [[Celestial Kingdom|The Celestial Kingdom]] rect 483 188 568 284 [[Golden Plains|Kingdom of the Golden Plains]] rect 494 290 575 388 [[Iron Mountains|The Empire of the Iron Mountains]] rect 471 395 559 490 [[Goldenvale|Kingdom of Goldenvale]] rect 395 466 469 561 [[Dragonspine|Kingdom of Dragonspine]] rect 308 503 390 600 [[Wetlands|Kingdom of the Wetlands]] rect 219 503 300 599 [[Neverwinter|Kingdom of Neverwinter]] rect 133 469 209 562 [[Rising Winds|Kingdom of the Valley of the Rising Winds]] rect 62 389 140 465 [[Blackspire|Kingdom of Blackspire]] rect 67 460 133 485 [[Blackspire|Kingdom of Blackspire]] rect 25 289 104 385 [[Crystal Groves|Kingdom of Crystal Groves]] rect 38 189 119 280 [[Desert Winds|Kingdom of the Desert Winds]] rect 86 89 171 184 [[Tal Dagore|Kingdom of Tal Dagore]] rect 176 37 261 141 [[Northern Lights|Kingdom of the Northern Lights]] poly 130 286 183 180 259 146 319 145 398 167 446 263 466 379 456 438 375 476 275 495 216 472 156 417 [[Amtgard|Amtgard]] desc bottom-left </imagemap>
Takaffi talk contribs email 20:07, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
New graphic with all of the Kingdoms
Given that the graphic on the home page is years out of date, I made a new one.
The imagemap will also have to be redone, but one thing at a time. For now, it could just redirect to [Chapters by Kingdom]
Benbookworm97 (talk) 05:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
The redirect now works, but can the image be updated too?
Benbookworm97 (talk) 01:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Updating links and lists
I made several edits to links. Rather than risk making multiple changes to the Main Page in a single edit, I made a series of smaller edits. Each is explained in that edit's Summary, for ease of undoing if needed. I checked every link on the Main Page, and updated some to correctly direct to the referenced category or webpage. However, just because the links work doesn't mean they still belong there. Here is my list of proposed edits / discussion points:
- The Game
- Perhaps "Rulebook" should link to Amtgard Official Documents, where the most recent rules should be (because we're not still on V8.0, and the subsequent version don't have pages created).
- Consider directly linking to Easyguard Mobile App.
- "Equipment" could perhaps be renamed "Materials", "Supplies", or something else to reflect the presence of "Tutorials" in the list. The "About" list could likewise be reworked to be something to the effect of "Gameplay".
- Should "Merchants list" still be there? I can see it being a good resource, but only if it were updated more recently than 2015.
- Chapters
- "Find a Chapter" should probably link to either play.amtgard.com or to the ORK Atlas
- Perhaps move "Types of Chapters" into the bullet with "By Kingdom | By State..." and rename "By Size". By linking to Category:Chapter Sizes, this removes the need for its sub-list.
- Events
- Basically all of the "Events" pages need overhauling. I second the recommendation from Sheeves to just remove them since they're not being updated.
- "Interkingdom Events" could link to Category:Interkingdom Events instead of having a sublist.
- "Standard Events" could link to Category:Standard Events instead of having a sublist.
- It might even be worth it to label "Events" as "Events (help keep updated!)", or something similar.
- Player community
- I fixed the "By Kingdom" links to actually direct to the appropriate category page.
- I changed what was called "Knights and Nobles" to just be "Knights", since that was where it already linked, and because Nobles are not categorized by Kingdom.
- Player Tools
- I think the ORK is the only link that is still likely to be used. Perhaps it should link directly to the ORK3 instead of the wiki page about it.
- I'm surprised the Google Form to "Record Your Heraldry" still works (the edit history suggests it was added a decade ago), but is anyone monitoring responses on the other end?
- The E-Sam page needs updating. Even though the site hasn't been used in forever, it's still a treasure trove, so I can't recommend removing the link entirely. Perhaps it could link directly to E-Sam instead of having to update its wiki page.
- Current Kingdoms
- The size of the Kingdom Heraldry could probably be increased and/or scale by screen size.
- If someone want to really put some work in, a new imagemap could be created for it.
- Locate a Chapter
- The map links appropriately to the categories of chapters by state.
- Why is California split in half? The chapters are not categorized accordingly.
- To reflect being "Amtgard International" and at least the number of Canadian chapters, the map should be somewhat more zoomed out than just the United States.
- Perhaps it can just be an inserted frame of the ORK Atlas?
Talon the Discerning (talk) 00:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)